You know I'd think CCP would want miners being ganked as it makes the mining bot problem less significant, it helps to keep the profession's income up, it helps the economy, and it provides amusement to people who patiently must wait a year or two for CCP to fix the part of the game they live in. I'm to lazy to look up the quote for moronic npc alts but I remember somewhere a CCP guy saying that it was currently too difficult to differentiate between an actual miner and a bot so I'll leave this screenshot here as an example of the state of this problem.

http://imgur.com/DbL17

For those that have trouble understanding, look at what is typed and look at what the search box suggests, I'm surprised it is so high in the suggestions.

Revert mining ship EHP buffs (except for the procuror and skiff).

This loot (strip miners cost a pretty penny), combined with insurance for the lost gank ships would usually make it fairly profitable to gank miners.

How about we turn that around.

There's over a hundred thousand high-sec miners.

Why not supply Eve's tritanium needs with rookie ships?

Oh what's that you say? They don't want to?

I didn't identify it as a problem to be honest. I just asked how miners would like their only adaptation mechanism to be noobships.

Your response made your point of view plainly clear, in spite of your understanding of who said what, though.

Your post was pretty revealing on that matter. You shuck the rookie ship like a bad haircut. You basically made Baitec's point. The rookie ship being the only viable option is a terrible, terrible admition of how broken this new system has become.

You're wrong. Neither are viable, given numbers, to their alternatives. In neither case are you "better off with noob ships."

Also, your viewpoint is overly simplistic. Baitec provides you with technetium. Let's see how many Macks get built without that.

[Edit: For that matter, even I help in supplying your technetium.]

So you are now dissociating the ganker from the act of ganking for the purposes of your argument. I see.

Miners don't actually produce anything either, then, for that matter.

They merely gather it. They may be associated with actual producers, and in rare cases may themselves be producers, but this argument is so stupid I can't even keep it up.

As for your profitability by scale scenario, how many high-sec miners are there? You really don't think they could mine a good amount of trit in noob ships? it would be more profitable for them, according to you, if they suddenly just decided to and so did en-masse, as trit would nearly vanish from the market.

Your arguments are flimsy, your case foiled. Clearly your own statement about what would happen if noob ships were suddenly the top miners (mineral prices would skyrocket) indicate that, in fact, you agree with my original premise:

The only way to buff mining profits is to nerf mining.

I don't disagree with that. They are functionally the same thing. Both represent the predicted effects of negative pressure on mining profits.

So for profitability, it would be best if all miners agreed to mine in noob ships. Or if miners shot each other to strip down the share of demand garnered by other miners. Or if they got ganked occasionally because it was profitable to do on a reasonable scale.

But that doesn't happen. People do laundry while their Mack hoovers up ice and (to a slightly lesser extent) trit while they are nominally safe from all but the most zealous gank attempts...or by your estimation the most desperate. Because regardless of how you view it, resorting to noobships for ganking is desperate.

Increased efficiences - to gather/produce - increases margin.

Just like CCP 'fixed' mission drops because miners ( who obviously sucked at mining ) QQ'd that mission runners were getting too many minerals from mission drops. One person boo-hoo'd about how unfair it was after they had trained up all those skills for mining ( as opposed to the racial BS, weapon and defense systems a mission runner trains. I have both - mining was 'easy'... ).

Just how many times does CCP have to come riding in to play White Knight for the mining 'community' who refuses to play smart and adapt?